One of the aircrew was trained in Canada…
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Before I go on…
Before I go on one more time on this blog…
British Commonwealth Air Training Plan
I could have written a book about Eugene Gagnon, a Mosquito pilot with RAF 23 Squadron who unknowingly led me to Allan Todd just like my wife’s uncle led me to write blogs about WWII.
LAC Eugene Gagnon at No. 6 SFTS, Dunnville, Ontario
Writing a blog was easier in 2009.
Souvenirs de guerre was a blog created when my wife’s uncle told us he was a sailor aboard HMCS Athabaskan the night the destroyer was torpedoed. Souvenirs de guerre had its English counterpart since English speaking people were contributing so many stories and pictures.
The floodgates then opened wide one day when veterans started writing comments.
One veteran air gunner was instrumental in creating another blog about 425 Alouette, his bomber squadron in WWII. When I found out he was suffering from this, and was just using me for his own personal glory, I just shot him down and…
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I just get curious, then one thing leads to another then another…
A personal message I received last week…
My father Donald Armstrong trained in Class 71 at 13 SFTS St. Hubert and I have a photo of the graduating class’s dinner at Mount Royal Hotel on 14 April 1943 that I would be happy to share.
Mostly all happy faces…
How many survived the war?
An update on the picture…
No.12 E.F.T.S. Goderich Revisited
This is what got me interested with No.12 E.F.T.S Goderich.
Elizabeth Hamilton wanted to share something last week but she did not know how to share it. She had this comment about something I had written on this blog…
“Instructing student pilots– a dangerous affair” struck a cord with me.
My father’s best friend, Robert [Bob] Bruce Reid, was a Flight Sergeant Instructor with the #12 E.F.T.S. (Goderich, Ontario).
On August 26, 1942, near Rostock, ON, in a Tiger Moth (#8909) on a cross country training exercise, there was a mid-air collision with another training aircraft with #14 S.F.T.S, a Yale (#3391).
All four, two instructors and two students, were killed: J.E. Mosher, Pilot Instructor, J. McVicar, student pilot; R.B Reid, Pilot Instructor, and D. York, pupil pilot.
I do have a few photos of Bob which I’d like to post on this site, if that would be okay. [Although I am not sure how to do an entry as polished as some of those I’ve seen here]. If permissable, I’d like to add a few comments from his official record and from a letter to my father alluding to the toll the training was taking on him.
This is what she wanted to add…
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In memory of
Robert (Bob) Bruce Reid
RCAF Flight Instructor
13 Sept. 1918–26-August 1942
Rank: Flight Sergeant Pilot
Service Number R72122
Age: 23
Unit: #12 E.F.T.S. Goderich
Additional Information:
Son of Grace Helen and Milton Douglas Reid, Drayton, Ontario, Robert (Bob) Bruce Reid filled out his attestation paper on the 1st of June, 1940 indicating that he put together model airplanes as a hobby and had passed an examination for commercial training of pilots, including a three hour unofficial nerve test and declared that he could fly without nervous tension. His letters of recommendation spoke of him as “honest, industrious, free from bad habits and determined to succeed with whatever he undertakes,” and “with the energy and ambition to succeed.” His school principal noted that Bob had to do a very great deal of farm work and that sometimes he had to stay home and work to permit older brothers to go to school. It was not easy but, by dint of hard work, he was presented with an award as the student with the highest standing at Matriculation.
Bob was assessed as being dependable, alert, cheerful and eager to learn. Initially he was judged suitable for bombers, a pilot of a large craft, but was directed into the flight instructor program. He received his Pilot’s Flying Badge on 16 June 1941, and completed his Flying Instructor’s Course at the Central Flying School in Trenton, Ontario on 12 September 1941. He began training new pilots on the 16th of September, with familiarity of Fleet, Harvard, Finch and Avro Anson planes.
Even before beginning his instructor duties, he recognized the pressures of the job of pilot. In a conversation with long-time friend and fellow L.A.C. A.C. Hamilton (radar tech), Bob talked for hours and said that he knew he was living on “borrowed time.” He was nervous but was not inclined to unwind with his comrades; he still believed in the higher calling of the war effort. They both knew the demands that instructing could take: their friend, Floyd Henry, was a civilian flight instructor prior to the war and, at the time, he was in the Ontario Hospital recovering from what was known then as a nervous breakdown. And there were the reports of all the other training accidents, both large and small.
After his training, Bob did the majority of his active teaching at #5 Special Flight Training School in Brantford, Ontario and was recommended for promotion to W.O.2 in June 1942. In May 1942, he applied for leave without pay and was transferred to #12 Elementary Flight Training School. By August 1942, he had logged more than 1,000 hours in both solo and dual flying.
On 26 August 1942, Bob Reid was on a cross-country flight exercise with his student, L.A.C. Douglas York in a Tiger Moth (#8909 Mark I 820) from #12 Elementary Flight Training School. The weather was good—ceiling unlimited with visibility 3-6 miles in haze. It was not the only training flight in the skies. Flight Officer John Edgar Mosher and his student, J. McVicar, were up in a Yale (#3391 NA-64) from the #14 Special Flight Training School. At around 15:00, over the farms of Lorne Diehl and John Ralston approximately 1 ½ miles north of Rostook, Ontario, the two planes collided, killing all four pilots.
According to eye witnesses, the Tiger Moth 8909 and Yale 3391 “collided head on at approximately 2000 feet while on cross country flights. Both aircraft spun into the ground. Tiger Moth 8909 burst into flames and aircraft and occupants almost totally burned. Yale 3391 hit ground with considerable force killing occupants immediately.” The aircraft debris of the two planes was separated by about 1/3 mile.
According to the investigation of the collision, “the pilots of both aircraft failed to see each other in time to avoid collision. Contributing factor: visibility limited greatly by haze especially looking towards sun.” Other documentation in the file lists cause of accident as “unavoidable,” and “obscure.” In a letter to L.A.C. A.C. Hamilton, her son’s best friend, Mrs. Reid wrote: “I do feel that he has gone on to a fuller life where he can serve without being worn out” and that “he is still working some way for the cause of freedom and that I will see him again…Bob packed a lot of Service into the last two years.”
To be continued…
More about No. 12 EFTS Goderich
No.12 EFTS Goderich
Instructing student pilots – a dangerous affair
Interesting comment made about this post.
“Instructing student pilots- a dangerous affair” struck a cord with me.
My father’s best friend, Robert [Bob] Bruce Reid, was a Flight Sergeant Instructor with the #12 E.F.T.S. (Goderich, Ontario).
On August 26, 1942, near Rostock, ON, in a Tiger Moth (#8909) on a cross country training exercise, there was a mid-air collision with another training aircraft with #14 S.F.T.S, a Yale (#3391).
All four, two instructors and two students, were killed: J.E. Mosher, Pilot Instructor, J. McVicar, student pilot; R.B Reid, Pilot Instructor, and D. York, pupil pilot.
I do have a few photos of Bob which I’d like to post on this site, if that would be okay. [Although I am not sure how to do an entry as polished as some of those I’ve seen here]. If permissable, I’d like to add a few comments from his official record and from a letter to my father alluding to the toll the training was taking on him.
British Commonwealth Air Training Plan
Walter Neil Dove’s notes are so interesting when you read what he wrote about LAC St. Marseille, a student pilot determined to…
But sometimes his comments tell a lot about other student pilots… like “Whitey” Jones.