Sometimes…

I regret to inform you that my uncle Roy K. McLeod was killed in action on the night of May 11-12, 1944. He was listed as MIA for a very long period of time, and final confirmation of his burial place did not occur until 1948, which may explain the discrepancy in your information. Thanks for creating this wonderful website, it helps with my research into his life. I can provide a copy of his logbook upon request.
The Belgians had a wonderful memorial for his crew, including a visit by the Battle of Britain Memorial Flight Lancaster.

Sometimes this is all I need to go back in time.

To be continued…

About Kolibri Forensics

I got this message in my inbox.

Pierre,

I came across your Commonwealth Air Training Plan blog while working on a project and I wanted to say thank you.  The nonprofit I work (Kolibri Forensics) for is trying to put together a list of all aircraft lost in North America where the crews (and/or passengers) were not recovered.  We are hoping to use the information to help locate the aircraft crash sites and work with the government (Canadian, Australian, New Zealander, or American as the case might be) to recover and repatriate these fallen heroes.

It has been a real pain in the rear to try to match Commonwealth personnel unaccounted for to the aircraft they were on.  A couple of these were able to be linked up using information from your blog.  Thank you for that.

By the way, if you have any interest in helping to match the rest of the missing aircrew members to their aircraft, you’re welcome to help us out.  I figure someone with your breadth of knowledge on the subject would be a good addition to our team.

Sincerely,

Stephen

Stephen L. Richey

Executive Director/Chief Forensic Specialist
Kolibri Forensics

812-746-4124
http://www.kolibriforensics.org
EVERYONE DESERVES TO COME HOME

Edgar Dörre – Update

Updated 3 January 2022 with a PowerPoint presentation done by his nephew.

F_O Mervyn Jack Mills


Original post

Here is the message that has just been posted on a WWII forum. It was about a German pilot who shot down Mervyn Jack Mills.

I wonder who put the picture of Erbo von Kageneck on this website:

https://bcatp.wordpress.com/2014/07/01/edgar-dorre/, pretending that it was a photo of Edgar Dörre…

It’s evidently Erbo von Kageneck:

http://deutsches-afrikakorps.blogspot.com/2011/02/oberleutnant-erbo-graf-von-kageneck.html

I had taken this photo from the Internet.

I now stand corrected.

The man I never met

I never met that man.

Gagnon gets his wings - April 1942

Eugene Gagnon receiving his wings
Collection Jacques Gagnon

But I met his nephew.

I never met this man also.

GH Legion Poppies - LeVerne Haley

LeVerne Haley

Collection LeVerne Haley’s family
Use only with permission

Writing about Eugene Gagnon in 2010 led me in 2014 to LeVerne Haley’s grandson whom I never met except on the Internet. Trusting someone with personal pictures of your grandfather tells a lot about someone. Writing about a French-Canadian Mosquito pilot who died in a plane crash on October 21, 1947, tells a lot about someone also.

plane crash 21 October 1947 Windsor Mills, Quebec

Collection Jacques Gagnon

Using pictures without permission by an university student for a term paper in a history course tells a lot about someone also.

This is what happened to me two months ago. I won’t go into this story. This is why I am asking you to please contact me if you want to use pictures on this blog. I will gladly give permission if you ask and tell me why.

This blog is all about paying homage to the young men who gave so much.

If you think likewise then you are more than welcome to share these pictures unless you add a “Please donate button” on your Website.

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It always starts like this…

A comment…

I found this very specific information about Lester Charles Jones, the American buried in the Alliance (Nebraska) Cemetery (All text is copied directly from the listing for the sale of this medal…!)

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An exclamation point!

Good grief!

Was this reader trying to tell me something…?

I guess so because he is the one who shared these.

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He added this heartfelt comment.

It feels that way, Pierre.

When I found the decoration and read his story, I cried. It seemed – and is! – so wrong that anyone can sell medals awarded by governments to individuals for exceptional sacrifice in war. It would be like buying someone’s grave marker for a Halloween event to scare the kiddies, in my mind. A disgrace. The only good that came of it is we now have a very full description of his life and death. I will never walk by that grave again without a moment of silence, a salute from one old soldier to another. It should be against the law to sell such things. This man is more than a $225 (or whatever it was) chunk of cash in someone’s pocket for shameful behavior.

The irony is that there is a place where that medal not only could have been on display with the story of Lester Charles Jones, it and Lester would have been given the full respect he earned through his sacrifice. As I’ve mentioned, I volunteer Thursday afternoons at […] Nebraska.

Most of the displays and resources there are donations from family who found military memorabilia in Dad or Mom’s closet after they died, realized there was no equitable way to share it with survivors or no survivors particularly wanted it because it would end up in their closets for lack of better ideas on what to do with it.

But, the family recognized its importance. The museum gave them a way to honor a loved one by sharing his or her memorabilia, and visitors to the museum gain knowledge of the impact of war on ordinary people in a small, isolated town in Western Nebraska. Heroes walk among us, silent in life many times because of the horrors they experienced in service to their country, but revealed and honored after they are gone because

we all need to recognize the fact John Wayne was just a fiction, but these people lived, fought, and sometimes died to save a world from tyranny. It’s a small museum, but it serves a large purpose.

If we can’t have the medal for the Museum, I can, at least, make sure his story isn’t lost. There is a project in the USA (I think Canada, too) to photograph each grave marker in every cemetery in the country, and to put together as much information as possible for the stories of the individuals buried there. The other history museum in town, is in charge of the local project. My friend, the director of the museum, has a small staff and volunteers who’ve been deeply involved in that project, but there over 8600 graves in the city cemetery, more than live in town! Little by little, though, they are working through the task, and it seems only fitting that I pass on what I found on Lester Charles Jones in case they don’t have some or all of it, other than a photo of the grave marker.  

How to reach me…

You can use the comment section like this reader…

I noticed you identified my father, Donald C. Ford.  Are there other links with additional information?  My dad passed away in 1975.  I have his log books and training record.

Or use this contact form…

I know more than you think about No. 4 EFTS Windsor Mills.

Click here.

Sid’s granddaughter

Who would have thought Millenna would comment more about Sid Seid?

Sid Seid Mosquito VI from 418 Squadron

Thank you! You know more about him than I do! He passed away when my father was 8 years old. . . I’m from Palau! You should tell some of your friends and come visit; it’s a great place! Anyways, I’m writing a report on him so if you have anymore info on him will you please share?

Thanks !

I was sure she would comment more on her grandfather.

Course 63 No. 2 S.F.T.S. Uplands

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This is the reason I am writing this blog with all the scanned images Greg Bell sent me when his grandfather was an instructor at No.2 S.F.T.S Uplands in 1942 and 1943.

Comments like this one.

He’s my Grandpa ! Sid Seid

Sid Seid Mosquito VI from 418 Squadron

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